Saying "no" is not working, ds just laughs and does it even more for atention. He climbs on the couch and and to the edge and altough he has not climbed all the way to the top and could of course fall off (but he can) I'm tired of saying no. Is it time to bring out the pack and play back and implement time out there? WIll they see it as a consequence? DD steals and throws him down, so she needs some dicipline too.
I did not do TO's in the pack and play, only because we did not have room for it to be up in the living room. At that age I did TO's on my lap for about a minute, removing them from the situation and not having them face me. I did not talk to them, we just sat there for a minute. I say the pack and play is worth a try. Good luck!
We use the pack n play when seperating them doesn't work. It's been working great for us. We focus on not being reactionary and giving hugs afterwards. I think it doesn't matter how you do it, as long as your consistant. GL!!
I am at my wits end with the ignoring of no too so I just started trying the Pack-n-Play timeout option. Our Pack-n-play also acts as a gate so it is always in the living room. I put ds in there THREE times this weekend for one minute intervals and he didn't really seem to care that he was in there but he didn't go back to doing what he was doing (pulling on the cabinets repeatedly trying to get them open despite the child locks, moving the pack and play and making a mad dash for the stairs, trying to climb in the fireplace). DD is still listening to "No" for now, so I don't know how she will react but I bet it will seem more like punishment to her because she doesn't like being ignored. DS could care less, he can entertain himself with anything! So, I guess I am not much help because I don't know when it is appropriate to start timeouts or when they will help but I did start them because redirection, explaining why they couldn't do stuff, and even barriers that are supposed to keep them out didn't work!
I think this is one of those hard ages (I guess they all are!) but they are too young for a real TO, don't speak the language and too young to understand real punishment. It's really a lot of firm "no's" and redircting. Just recently I've been putting one of my DD's in the hallway. I "had it" the other day and just scooped her up and sat her down in the hallway...she actually sat there and cryed for over a minute. When she decided to get up and walk back in the kitchen she was calmer (not sure why she even sat there but it worked) its similar to the pack and play method, but until they are two or close I don;t think there is a lot more we can do... :headbang:
I started the 123 Magic a couple of weeks ago and even though the author states the ages are 2-12... I totally think its working for us. we did bring the pack & play back out. I actually use it for time outs and to separate them for individual play when I need some extra time... I didn't use our pnp for probably almost a year here at home, and its really helping out now! I do really think the "that's 1", then "that's 2", "that's 3 - time out" is working for us. I checked out the 123 Magic video and its been a lifesaver!
We started TO's around 18 months. I didn't use a pnp because I didn't have one in the family room so I just put them in a corner and stayed there holding them. I don't think they really grasped it until closer to two years of age though. Good luck!
My LO's are the same. They think its funny. I think they are to young to really get "timeout", so I have tried a new aproach. I don't get mad I say no calmly and if they continue I show them what they are supposed to do, and when they do the right thing I make a huge deal out of it. For example.. I have one of those pull out garbage cans. My DD loves to pull it out and climb in it. So when she does it I say no will you please close it ( i have showed her how to close it). She now closes it and I clap and make a big deal about how good it was. She usually pulls it open and closes it a few more times to here the clapping, but shes not climbing in it nearly as much as she was. I was pulling her out of there all day long. I have done this with hitting too and it seems to be helping. GL!! iTs stressful!
We start 'training' now at 12 months. Right now it's just learning what time outs are and what the word no means. I think it is so individualized to the child. Just ONE example of something I might do, is put a child in the highchair for a minute or even less facing the wall.
we started time outs at a year old. i didn't see it so much as a punishment as it was a way to give them a break - and by the time i brought them back out, they had usually forgotten whatever it was they were doing that i didn't want them to do. we started by putting them in their cribs for timeout but that really didn't work well - one day i stupidly gave Riley a time out in her crib about 10 minutes before nap time. she absolutely freaked out when i then tried to put her down for her nap. :blush: i definitely should have seen that one coming. later that day i went & picked up a cheap mat that i now keep in the corner of the living room. they have to sit on the mat for time out now. usually i'll set the timer & then sit next to them, avoiding eye contact or other interaction. if they stand or try to walk/crawl off the mat, i say 'sit please' & put them back on the mat. this seems to be working fairly well - although sometimes whichever child is not in timeout thinks it's a game & tries to sit on the mat too. i just ignore that. i've also recently started using 123 Magic & like the PP have found that the girls are really responding to it even though he recommends not starting until they're two. i usually say 'no, Danika/Riley, that's 1', etc which isn't exactly what he lays out in his book but it does seem to be working. anyway, whatever you decide to do, i think consistency is the key. do the same thing over & over and they'll get it eventually. GL!
