Oh silly DH

OK, we all know how difficult it is to sleep the bigger and more uncomfortable you get. So, last night at around 5:00 in the morning, DH moved my preggie body pillow (first no-no) and snuggled up next to me. It was sweet, but I really have a thing about being touched right now. I just need my space. HOWEVER, I realize he needs some affection, so I snuggled up with him. We were in a basic "spooning" position with his back to my tummy. After about 3 minutes, he wiggles away and puts my pillow back in place proclaiming...

"I can't take this anymore...the girls are kicking me in the back!"

Let me tell you how much I don't feel sorry for him. Really? I get kicked all day in a number of places...ribs, bladder, tummy, intestines, lungs...take your pick! Thankfully I was in a good mood and just happy to get my pillow back, so he lives another day. :rofl:

 

:rotflmbo: Men! That is too funny though! I'm glad you are letting him live another day... who knows what you might need him to get you later on!

 

QUOTE(TwinsInFL @ Oct 23 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]1038896[/snapback]
"I can't take this anymore...the girls are kicking me in the back!"

Let me tell you how much I don't feel sorry for him. Really? I get kicked all day in a number of places...ribs, bladder, tummy, intestines, lungs...take your pick! Thankfully I was in a good mood and just happy to get my pillow back, so he lives another day. :rofl:

:laughing: That is so funny! You gotta love Men!

 

LOL I love it!! Too funny!

 

TOOOOOO CUTE!

But honestly, they have no idea. <_<

 

:rofl: Clueless!

 

I tried to get hubby to understand what it feels like. I said to imagine you swallowed a huge trout, and it is just squirming and flopping around in there, with the occaisional angry tail slap thrown in. Then it gets the hiccups 6 or 7 times a day!

 

LOL! happened often here too! I loved the kicking though and miss it terribly!

 

QUOTE(mollyjm+2 @ Oct 23 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]1038970[/snapback]
:rofl: Clueless!


I find that very often I feel kicks and jabs and wiggles coming from my wife’s belly that she doesn’t feel. It’s entirely possible that he’s feeling more and stronger kicks than you think, and the occasional kick in the spine isn’t exactly conducive to getting any sleep.
Amusing, yeah, but maybe if there was a little less of the ‘husbands are clueless’ type sentiments you would have more husbands participating here.

 

QUOTE(Lorem Ipsum @ Oct 23 2008, 03:21 PM) [snapback]1039092[/snapback]
I find that very often I feel kicks and jabs and wiggles coming from my wife’s belly that she doesn’t feel. It’s entirely possible that he’s feeling more and stronger kicks than you think, and the occasional kick in the spine isn’t exactly conducive to getting any sleep.
Amusing, yeah, but maybe if there was a little less of the ‘husbands are clueless’ type sentiments you would have more husbands participating here.

Ok, granted your right that sometimes you can feel something externally more than internally, but I think what a lot of the women were finding funny is that the thumping on his back was keeping him up, which of course is a little different than someone tap dancing on your bladder. When your being kept up night after night, you have to find the humor in your husbands "being clueless". It keeps us sane, and not ticked off at our DHs.

 

QUOTE(Lorem Ipsum @ Oct 23 2008, 02:21 PM) [snapback]1039092[/snapback]
I find that very often I feel kicks and jabs and wiggles coming from my wife’s belly that she doesn’t feel. It’s entirely possible that he’s feeling more and stronger kicks than you think, and the occasional kick in the spine isn’t exactly conducive to getting any sleep.
Amusing, yeah, but maybe if there was a little less of the ‘husbands are clueless’ type sentiments you would have more husbands participating here.

Trust me, I love my DH dearly...obviously! But sometimes in life you just have to find humor in the things that our spouses say. We try really hard not to complain as our bodies expand, ache and get just generally awkward so it's funny to have him jump at a few kicks to the back. This group of ladies are the only other people in the world who can understand the humor I found in that moment. I mean this in no way to be disparriging to him...he's great! But this is, after all, a community for expecting parents so those of us carrying the children are definitely going to share our experiences.

 

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Amusing, yeah, but maybe if there was a little less of the "husbands are clueless" type sentiments you would have more husbands participating here.


I don't think its the statements of "clueless husbands/partners" that keeps them away... but the nasty in-depth details of leaking breast, discharge, labor and all the other blessed things that we as expectant mommies experience. And until a man has been kicked hard enough by a growing baby to mess himself, he will always be clueless. IMO

 

QUOTE(hardinfamtwins @ Oct 23 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]1039248[/snapback]
And until a man has been kicked hard enough by a growing baby to mess himself, he will always be clueless. IMO

Amen sister!

 

Ok, that's VERY funny!!!!! MEN!!! :rotflmbo:

 

so funny :rotflmbo:

 

QUOTE(hardinfamtwins @ Oct 23 2008, 02:32 PM) [snapback]1039248[/snapback]
I don't think its the statements of "clueless husbands/partners" that keeps them away... but the nasty in-depth details of leaking breast, discharge, labor and all the other blessed things that we as expectant mommies experience. And until a man has been kicked hard enough by a growing baby to mess himself, he will always be clueless. IMO



Here we are in the expecting twins forum… a subset of the “For Parents” area described as (you’ll note that this is a quote) “Expectant parents of twins can ask for advice or offer advice in this forum”. What it doesn’t say is Expectant Mothers of twins can ask for advice because expectant fathers are clueless… Mind you I question how it is that we can deal with all the “nasty in-depth details of leaking breast, discharge, labor and all the other blessed things” in person, but for some reason you think that reading about it on a web page would be too much for us. Like it or not we husbands are a part of the picture, we’re expectant parents just as much as you are.

Does the husband that you expect to be supportive and understanding at home realize that you think we’re all clueless? Do you think he would appreciate the sentiment? We may not get to experience *being* pregnant, but does that really earn us so much disrespect?

Sorry if I sound a bit rattled, but look at all the husband rants and then imaging how aggressively we would get treated if one of us posted a rant about our wife…

 

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Here we are in the expecting twins forum… a subset of the “For Parents” area described as (you’ll note that this is a quote) “Expectant parents of twins can ask for advice or offer advice in this forum”. What it doesn’t say is Expectant Mothers of twins can ask for advice because expectant fathers are clueless… Mind you I question how it is that we can deal with all the “nasty in-depth details of leaking breast, discharge, labor and all the other blessed things” in person, but for some reason you think that reading about it on a web page would be too much for us. Like it or not we husbands are a part of the picture, we’re expectant parents just as much as you are.


But YOU claimed it’s because we call fathers "clueless" that more fathers don’t partake in the forum. I disagreed and think it’s because of some of the topics that are discussed. Never once did I say your not an expectant parent such as myself, but only disagreed with the reason why more fathers don’t participate in the forum.

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Does the husband that you expect to be supportive and understanding at home realize that you think we’re all clueless? Do you think he would appreciate the sentiment? We may not get to experience *being* pregnant, but does that really earn us so much disrespect?


My husband is would be the FIRST person to say he is CLUELESS. He has no idea what its like to throw up for 3 months straight, to carry around dead weight, to mess himself because a baby kicked, to get one hour of sleep due to hurt burn, to have hemorrhoids for weeks. (I can keep going)... Having a husband complain about a baby kicking his back for a few MINUTES is nothing compared to the COUNTLESS sleepless nights that some pregnant woman endure MONTHS before the babies come. I’m personally kicked ALL night long. So, yes, I think men are a little clueless to just how much we suffer. Mind you, my husband may be clueless to *exactly* what I go through, but he is amazing non the less. For a twin mom is NOT the easiest person to live with and he has to endure his own issues with our pregnancy.

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Sorry if I sound a bit rattled, but look at all the husband rants and then imaging how aggressively we would get treated if one of us posted a rant about our wife…


And to that I say this: Out of all that is discussed on here, Rants aren't that prevalent. Also, we are carrying your children, we go through SOOOO much to bring them into the world. I think we are allowed a little bit of a rant every now and then. My husband is FULLY aware of what I say about him, as he logs into this name often. If you or ANY OTHER expectant father needed to RANT would treat you with the same respect I treat ALL others. I might give you my opinion, I would try to show you another side (the side of the overly uncomfortable, emotional pregnant woman) and offer any advice that might be helpful. As you stated this is for Expectant Parents, but you have your own sub forum called "Dads of Twins" I don’t have that, so I post my issues, discussions here.

 

QUOTE(hardinfamtwins @ Oct 23 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]1039337[/snapback]
But YOU claimed it’s because we call fathers "clueless" that more fathers don’t partake in the forum. I disagreed and think it’s because of some of the topics that are discussed. Never once did I say your not an expectant parent such as myself, but only disagreed with the reason why more fathers don’t participate in the forum.
My husband is would be the FIRST person to say he is CLUELESS. He has no idea what its like to throw up for 3 months straight, to carry around dead weight, to mess himself because a baby kicked, to get one hour of sleep due to hurt burn, to have hemorrhoids for weeks. (I can keep going)... Having a husband complain about a baby kicking his back for a few MINUTES is nothing compared to the COUNTLESS sleepless nights that some pregnant woman endure MONTHS before the babies come. I’m personally kicked ALL night long. So, yes, I think men are a little clueless to just how much we suffer. Mind you, my husband may be clueless to *exactly* what I go through, but he is amazing non the less. For a twin mom is NOT the easiest person to live with and he has to endure his own issues with our pregnancy.
And to that I say this: Out of all that is discussed on here, Rants aren't that prevalent. Also, we are carrying your children, we go through SOOOO much to bring them into the world. I think we are allowed a little bit of a rant every now and then. My husband is FULLY aware of what I say about him, as he logs into this name often. If you or ANY OTHER expectant father needed to RANT would treat you with the same respect I treat ALL others. I might give you my opinion, I would try to show you another side (the side of the overly uncomfortable, emotional pregnant woman) and offer any advice that might be helpful. As you stated this is for Expectant Parents, but you have your own sub forum called "Dads of Twins" I don’t have that, so I post my issues, discussions here.

Ditto. And let me just add that I do love my husband dearly. In fact, we just spent our dinner conversation talking about this post and he finds it quite humorous. I can only speak for myself, but I haven't posted anything about DH that I wouldn't tell him to his face. He personally loves that I can get on here and "vent" for lack of a better word. So many of the posts we read during the day are very serious in nature and it's nice to have something light-hearted to get a giggle every once in a while. No harm was meant in poking a little fun at my DH. In fact, he pointed out to me that I didn't post the whole story. This morning, when he brought up the kicking again, I offered to thump him in the "baby tackle" every time the girls kicked me so he could experience the joy as well. He thought it was funny. I guess my DH and I just have a different tone to our relationship (thank God we found each other!).

I apologize to any fathers who took my post the wrong way, but am glad that a few ladies were able to get a chuckle. :yahoo:

 

Okay, I've been reading this thread as it developed and I feel, no matter what anyone says, men cannot know exactly what it is like to be pregnant. My husband has been wonderful through most of my 15 weeks so far. It did take him about 2 weeks to get there though. He was convinced that anytime I read about a pregnancy symptom I thought I had it. I was reading early on about the veins in your chest that can become more pronounced and noticable and mine were. When I mentioned it to him, he said, "I should take that book away from you, you think you have everything!" He was not very nice when he said it and I got pissed at him. I literaly flashed him and said, "Take a look for yourself and see what my veins look like!" Then I took the book and tossed it at him and said he better start reading it. He did read it and the next day we talked about what he read. We read books together now and talk about how our babies are developing and what I might be going through. I think in the beginning he was a little overwhelmed when I first found out I was pregnant. Mind you this whole little exchange happened before we found out it was twins! I have not seen any negative rants against husbands here. People may vent and get things off their chests, but that is why all of us are here. Not everyone, including our husbands, understand exactly what we are going through. Here other people understand. I actually thought the story was funny....not every husband is going to experience being kicked in the back by a baby! Regardless, from what I've read and other women have said, our husbands are wonderful people who try their hardest to help us and the babies be as healthy and comfortable as possible.

 

That was hilarious!!! Thanks for a good laugh before bed. I would have busted up if my dh said that to me!!

 

Wow, really didn't mean to start that one.
I did not mean disrespect to anyone. Perhaps I did not give credit to a man participating in the group. I do say good for you and I did not mean for you to feel unwelcomend or unwanted just because you are a man. My partner and the father of my children is very sympathitic to what Im going through. He tries his best to understand and listen to me but he would agree, he has no idea what I am really going through or the pain that my body is under right now because of caring twins. I have however, found an amazing since of support in this group. Because it is a group made mostly of women caring multi's the ladies here understand me and what I am going through a lot better then my partner. I find support here that I can not find with him as much as he might try. Support that I will not find with any man or group of men. There is the side of info here, and asking question and learning, but there is also a side where we come just to make it through our day sometimes. Just to have someone who truly understands hold our hands or pat us on the back. Please don't under estimate the emotional support and relief that I know I have recieved here and am sure that other moms have too.

 

This was classic!
Thank you for sharing. Now I don't feel like my hubby is the only one with foot IN mouth disease...

 

QUOTE(hardinfamtwins @ Oct 23 2008, 05:32 PM) [snapback]1039248[/snapback]
I don't think its the statements of "clueless husbands/partners" that keeps them away... but the nasty in-depth details of leaking breast, discharge, labor and all the other blessed things that we as expectant mommies experience. And until a man has been kicked hard enough by a growing baby to mess himself, he will always be clueless. IMO



:clapping:
YES YES YES!!! I had a broken rib and a seperated pelvis...(oh don't forget the hemroids from heck)...you name it....and my husband told me one day....if you ever had KNEE PAIN....You'd know what PAIN WAS! WTH? LOL I told my OB...and My OB took hubby into his office! :bow2: My OB "gets it" LOL

edited to add HEMROIDS! LOL

 

QUOTE(MissyEby @ Oct 24 2008, 11:25 AM) [snapback]1040524[/snapback]
:clapping:
YES YES YES!!! I had a broken rib and a seperated pelvis...(oh don't forget the hemroids from heck)...you name it....and my husband told me one day....if you ever had KNEE PAIN....You'd know what PAIN WAS! WTH? LOL I told my OB...and My OB took hubby into his office! :bow2: My OB "gets it" LOL

edited to add HEMROIDS! LOL



HAHAHA!!! Good Ol' OB!!

 

QUOTE(hardinfamtwins @ Oct 23 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]1039337[/snapback]
But YOU claimed it’s because we call fathers "clueless" that more fathers don’t partake in the forum. I disagreed and think it’s because of some of the topics that are discussed. Never once did I say your not an expectant parent such as myself, but only disagreed with the reason why more fathers don’t participate in the forum.
My husband is would be the FIRST person to say he is CLUELESS. He has no idea what its like to throw up for 3 months straight, to carry around dead weight, to mess himself because a baby kicked, to get one hour of sleep due to hurt burn, to have hemorrhoids for weeks. (I can keep going)... Having a husband complain about a baby kicking his back for a few MINUTES is nothing compared to the COUNTLESS sleepless nights that some pregnant woman endure MONTHS before the babies come. I’m personally kicked ALL night long. So, yes, I think men are a little clueless to just how much we suffer. Mind you, my husband may be clueless to *exactly* what I go through, but he is amazing non the less. For a twin mom is NOT the easiest person to live with and he has to endure his own issues with our pregnancy.
And to that I say this: Out of all that is discussed on here, Rants aren't that prevalent. Also, we are carrying your children, we go through SOOOO much to bring them into the world. I think we are allowed a little bit of a rant every now and then. My husband is FULLY aware of what I say about him, as he logs into this name often. If you or ANY OTHER expectant father needed to RANT would treat you with the same respect I treat ALL others. I might give you my opinion, I would try to show you another side (the side of the overly uncomfortable, emotional pregnant woman) and offer any advice that might be helpful. As you stated this is for Expectant Parents, but you have your own sub forum called "Dads of Twins" I don’t have that, so I post my issues, discussions here.


I have to disagree here. We could argue semantics of the definition of 'clueless', but one thing /point has been made which I feel is very true- one thing about the forums here that has bothered me in the past is regardless of terminology I have seen several men-bashing threads. Perhaps not this comment in itself, or this thread topic in itself, but the intermittant man and husband bashing I've found pretty offensive myself, and I'm not a man. I haven't spoken up on these threads as to not create conflict, but perhaps I should have. I could see how any father on the forums running across one of these threads and feeling very unwelcome to participate. It is true most things discussed aren't man bashing sessions, but there are some- that cross over the point if they were directed at a woman I am sure I would hear outcries of discrimination and prejudice and sexism- and I could guess the men who have seen them but still participate feel a bit antagonized and unwelcome as a reult.

I admit I lurk and read the 'Dads of Twins' forums, and from what I've seen I don't see it as very welcoming/condusive to fathers of twins... it seems to me women post in this forum almost as much as more than the dads. Granted, it's not a treehouse or anything, but I can see how this forum in itself isn't very welcoming to the fathers, either. Perhaps there should be a rants section for women, but I feel that those who post rants should be aware that if their rants are gender or ethnicity or race directed they are likely to be
offensive or have people take offense.

As far as the direct topic0Spouse has been very sympathetic to my aches, pains, cravings, tiredness, etc. He isn't carrying the children, but he has been great, and actually recommended things - yes he isn't pregnant but he has been my rock and my support and has definitely shared the experience with me. He isn't expedriencing what I'm going through (except bad food cravings) but I would not call him clueless as to what I'm going through.

 

QUOTE(hardinfamtwins @ Oct 23 2008, 04:32 PM) [snapback]1039248[/snapback]
I don't think its the statements of "clueless husbands/partners" that keeps them away... but the nasty in-depth details of leaking breast, discharge, labor and all the other blessed things that we as expectant mommies experience. And until a man has been kicked hard enough by a growing baby to mess himself, he will always be clueless. IMO


Hmmmm.... I doubt this... perhaps not 'clueless' but I have a feeling the occasional man-bashing sessions have a part in it. My spouse is probably less clueless than me, because I avoid a lot of specific readings due to my paranoia- there have been several times I had something weird/icky going on and he had a better idea/suggested to me what it could be when I had no clue.

Personally, my spouse is not grossed out by any of this stuff, the only thing I've seen him make any faces at is the possibility of seeing guts and stuff if we have to have a c-seciton- and just the thought of seeing this affects me way worse than it seems to him.

 

QUOTE(hardinfamtwins @ Oct 23 2008, 06:00 PM) [snapback]1039337[/snapback]
But YOU claimed it’s because we call fathers "clueless" that more fathers don’t partake in the forum. I disagreed and think it’s because of some of the topics that are discussed. Never once did I say your not an expectant parent such as myself, but only disagreed with the reason why more fathers don’t participate in the forum.
My husband is would be the FIRST person to say he is CLUELESS. He has no idea what its like to throw up for 3 months straight, to carry around dead weight, to mess himself because a baby kicked, to get one hour of sleep due to hurt burn, to have hemorrhoids for weeks. (I can keep going)... Having a husband complain about a baby kicking his back for a few MINUTES is nothing compared to the COUNTLESS sleepless nights that some pregnant woman endure MONTHS before the babies come. I’m personally kicked ALL night long. So, yes, I think men are a little clueless to just how much we suffer. Mind you, my husband may be clueless to *exactly* what I go through, but he is amazing non the less. For a twin mom is NOT the easiest person to live with and he has to endure his own issues with our pregnancy.
And to that I say this: Out of all that is discussed on here, Rants aren't that prevalent. Also, we are carrying your children, we go through SOOOO much to bring them into the world. I think we are allowed a little bit of a rant every now and then. My husband is FULLY aware of what I say about him, as he logs into this name often. If you or ANY OTHER expectant father needed to RANT would treat you with the same respect I treat ALL others. I might give you my opinion, I would try to show you another side (the side of the overly uncomfortable, emotional pregnant woman) and offer any advice that might be helpful. As you stated this is for Expectant Parents, but you have your own sub forum called "Dads of Twins" I don’t have that, so I post my issues, discussions here.


Along my earlier response, I think it is reasonable for someone who is part of a group (i.e. women, husbands, men, etc.) to have their feathers ruffled if they are called as that 'group something that has a negative connetation. For instance, if someone said "Women are evil" I'd get my panties in a bunch.

 

QUOTE(hardinfamtwins @ Oct 23 2008, 04:00 PM) [snapback]1039337[/snapback]
But YOU claimed it’s because we call fathers "clueless" that more fathers don’t partake in the forum. I disagreed and think it’s because of some of the topics that are discussed. Never once did I say your not an expectant parent such as myself, but only disagreed with the reason why more fathers don’t participate in the forum.


What I said was "maybe if there was a little less of the ‘husbands are clueless’ type sentiments you would have more husbands participating here." I did not claim, nor did I intend to suggest, the existence of an exclusive causality. I merely suggested that the tone creates an environment that isn't very welcoming to the male half of the parenting population and that altering that tone might result in more father participation. Maybe some fathers *are* turned away but the topics, but there is no need to alienate those that are not.

As an aside, isn't it a bit amusing that we (men) are derided for a tolerance of, or interest in, things that are ‘gross’… right up until it’s a ‘feminine’ issue, and then, suddenly, everyone thinks we can’t stomach it?

 

FOR THE ORIGINAL POSTER...

QUOTE(TwinsInFL @ Oct 23 2008, 10:46 AM) [snapback]1038896[/snapback]
OK, we all know how difficult it is to sleep the bigger and more uncomfortable you get. So, last night at around 5:00 in the morning, DH moved my preggie body pillow (first no-no) and snuggled up next to me. It was sweet, but I really have a thing about being touched right now. I just need my space. HOWEVER, I realize he needs some affection, so I snuggled up with him. We were in a basic "spooning" position with his back to my tummy. After about 3 minutes, he wiggles away and puts my pillow back in place proclaiming...

"I can't take this anymore...the girls are kicking me in the back!"

Let me tell you how much I don't feel sorry for him. Really? I get kicked all day in a number of places...ribs, bladder, tummy, intestines, lungs...take your pick! Thankfully I was in a good mood and just happy to get my pillow back, so he lives another day. :rofl:


You are adorable, and cute, and I am so happy that you are enjoying these special moments with your (apparently true) dear Husband.

Would the rest of you angry Dads and Lesbian "Mama's" please shut up and leave her alone????? Where are the Mod's??? Since when do we gang up on a young mother???? GO AWAY HATERS!!!!

Donna (yes, that is my name.)

 

I’m stepping away from this topic/thread. I stand by all I have said, I personally don’t think a few husband rants is alienating any husbands from this Forum. I do feel MANY husbands are clueless to the issues we as expectant mothers deal with. Finally, As I said before, I think we as the women who bare and bring the children into the world should be allowed a little place to complain about all we deal with INCLUDING husbands. As its been pointed out, some feel this is NOT a place to do that. Whether expectant mothers continue to address those feelings on here is a personal decisions they can make. I don’t see a problem with a pregnant woman needing to vent out her frustrations, but as we have now learned some obviously do.

~Christina

 

QUOTE(MamaD @ Oct 24 2008, 05:20 PM) [snapback]1040998[/snapback]
Would the rest of you angry Dads and Lesbian "Mama's" please shut up and leave her alone????? Where are the Mod's??? Since when do we gang up on a young mother???? GO AWAY HATERS!!!!

Donna (yes, that is my name.)


Lesbian Mama's? better hope that isn't my wife your talking about. And you've stooped to name calling? I think we found the hater!

 

Some of this may be my hormones, but I think this thread has gotten way off track when it meant no harm at all. I do understand that a man my view things here a bit differently, but my goodness the majority here are very hormonal, very uncomfortable pregnant women that have a lot going through our minds.
We all appreciate our significant others and what they endure for us - that's not what this forum is about. Just as a woman doesn't understand certain things men go through 100%, a man cannot possibly understand pregnancy 100%. Does that mean that the funny things that happen, like how this post innocently started, can't be laughed at? My DH would be the first one to laugh at this bc he would get that it is funny that after a minute or two the kicking would be enough to take but we feel it all day.

No one has bashed men - we are a bunch of people that talk candidly about life - what we have done is what men do everyday but in a more public forum. There are always complaints, random rants, and not only about our DH's. It's about our experiences right now and has never meant to be personal attacks on either gender - I find it offensive that this thread was made into just that.

So please, laugh a little, and realize this is just a silly little thing that happened that should put a smile on our faces....

 

The OP was certainly not bashing her dh! I say my dh is clueless sometimes, but I'm clueless about other things just as often (or more!) than he is! An expecting board is going to have many more clueless moments for dads than the moms since WE are the ones carrying the babies. Hormonal, big as a house mamas are allowed to come here to share what's bugging them, even if that something is their dh/so. Expecting dads can also share but seeing as it is mostly moms here, they don't have as many people to commisserate with. I personally got a great laugh from the OP and was surprised to see the turn this thread took.

 

I know this conversation should probably come to an end, but I must say, I agree with the last 2 posters (not to say there has not been other things in this thread that I have agreed with, or for that matter, not agreed with). In an attempted to not take ourselves to seriously a major debate was started. Were as I felt this was a safe place for me to come and hold nothing back, to be totally relaxed, welcome, and open with people I do not know but have a common bond with, I now feel a bit gaurded ( Im sure this was no ones intent, please do not let that start up something new). If I feel this way I am that much more concerned for how the originall poster must feel. Not meaning any harm and doing nothing wrong herself there have been feelings hurt. None of this of course is her fault and I do beleive there is no one to blame here (we are all intittled to our opinions and feelings). To be honest, this group was the best part of many of my days. I know that may seem selfish, but being alone in this process right now, this was the ONLY support I recieved and now Im not sure how comfertable here I am. I understand that all should be welcome here, and we should all make an effort to make all welcome, but does that mean that I should not whole put all into this group? Should I question everything that I say and do? These are question I only ask myself and no one else. I am sorry this conversation turned so sour.

 

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I know this conversation should probably come to an end, but I must say, I agree with the last 2 posters (not to say there has not been other things in this thread that I have agreed with, or for that matter, not agreed with). In an attempted to not take ourselves to seriously a major debate was started. Were as I felt this was a safe place for me to come and hold nothing back, to be totally relaxed, welcome, and open with people I do not know but have a common bond with, I now feel a bit gaurded ( Im sure this was no ones intent, please do not let that start up something new). If I feel this way I am that much more concerned for how the originall poster must feel. Not meaning any harm and doing nothing wrong herself there have been feelings hurt. None of this of course is her fault and I do beleive there is no one to blame here (we are all intittled to our opinions and feelings). To be honest, this group was the best part of many of my days. I know that may seem selfish, but being alone in this process right now, this was the ONLY support I recieved and now Im not sure how comfertable here I am. I understand that all should be welcome here, and we should all make an effort to make all welcome, but does that mean that I should not whole put all into this group? Should I question everything that I say and do? These are question I only ask myself and no one else. I am sorry this conversation turned so sour.


I agree.
I read each post from beginning to end, for the first time today. I believe it totally started out as a cutesy, funny thing DH said or did. I will think twice about how I word my posts from here on out. Hopefully the OP isn't traumatized by all of this and decides not to post at all. :hug: to you OP, and thanks for the laugh!!