MMR vaccine coming up

Ladies,

Our MMR shot is coming up. I'm in two minds whether or not to separate the vaccine.
My pedi says only if you have family that have mental illnesses should you consider separation...Dh says there is no one in his family who have mental illnesses. I don't know about my father's side though. I don't know his extended family as my parents got divorced when I turned 3 yrs old. And I'm not in contact with him.

The other day I read on the msnbc news site that over 4000 parents have filled lawsuits as their children have become autistic as a result of the MMR shot.
Now what does one do with this information? As I told my pedi what happens in a couple of years when they do discover that the vaccine does cause autism in some children?

In South Africa where I come from there is a very low incidence of autism. Then again it's up to the parents to decide whether to give the full vaccine or just some of it. Most parents get the measil vaccine & rubella.

I really need help with this one. If you separated the MMR how did you do it?

Thank you for reading!

Denise

 

I can only tell you what I have done personally, and that is vaccinate on schedule with all of my kids. Good luck with your decision.

 

QUOTE(becky5 @ May 17 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]778469[/snapback]
I can only tell you what I have done personally, and that is vaccinate on schedule with all of my kids. Good luck with your decision.


I did the same thing. My two were done on schedule. No problems with any needles in the first year.

Good luck with your decision!

 

Here's some interesting information on autism that may help you with your decision:
More evidence that Autism has strong genetic link

 

I will be separating that vaccine. They do come separate, but ped offices don't always carry it. I am less concerned about autism than about the other chemicals in it not to mention it's 3 in 1.

 

Another thing to consider is if you seperate it, you get all the nasty ingrediants 3 times vs once with the full MMR. Have you thought about delaying it until the age of 2 or 3, or even later? It's also a live virus.... My kids are not vaccinated, so I can't tell you from experience how my kids reacted as they will never receive this shot (or any other for that matter)

 

All of my children have been vaccinated on schedule and I feel very strongly that it's the right thing for our family. There is no scientific evidence that proves the MMR vaccine causes Autism. I think it's reasonable to split or delay if that's what you need to do. The diseases these vaccines prevent are real. There have been several large measles outbreaks this spring across the US. Real children get sick and some have permanent damage or die.

A lot of people are working on finding the causes of Autism. There is a huge meeting in London this week discussing Autism and it's causes. Most of the scientists there seem to think there is a genetic link and possible environmental trigger. They just don't know specifics yet.

 

I was going to seperate mine but my pedi said they do not do that at their office. I am dreading it because of the possible side effects so I am in the same boat. We all want to do what we think is best but with the media and its constant conflict of information it makes it so hard. There is no real reason that they have found that causes autism or cancer for that matter and everything gets blamed when it is just a theory.

GL

 

QUOTE(becky5 @ May 17 2008, 10:18 AM) [snapback]778469[/snapback]
I can only tell you what I have done personally, and that is vaccinate on schedule with all of my kids. Good luck with your decision.

This is what we have done with all 3 of our kids as well.

 

i wouldn't be too concerned about autism, more the other crap in the vaccines and the that MMR is live virus vac.

Some options:

You could separate one shot every year, but you will be exposing them to the same stuff three times since they have almost the same ingredients.

Giving vit A and C before and after can help with some side effects.

Delay until older.

Skip it and when they are 10 years you can have a test done to see if they have antibodies against MMR and if so, no shot needed or it not, then you can give them the vaccine at that time.

 

I was SO nervous to give my older DS this shot...all I kept thinking about was how he might get autism from it. I had a long talk with my pediatrician about it and I then decided to give him the shot. He is fine, and I will give the babies the shots on schedule too.

 

I am a doctor and believe strongly that vaccines are beneficial. My older DS got his shots on schedule and so will the twins. I certainly would not harm my own child if I believed there was a strong enough link between the MMR and autism. I also don't really see the point in getting all the vaccine components separately. Might as well do it all in one shot. And although it is a live vaccine, it is an attenuated virus (meaning weakened) and does not cause disease in the recipient.

 

Thank you so much for replying to my post!

I have thought long & hard about this one & have decided to go ahead & give them their MMR shots without separating it.

Thank you again

Denise

 

Buy the book by Doctor Sears called "The Vaccine Book". It is not an anti vaccine book and it gives you all the information you need to make an informed and responsible decision for you, your family and for the greater good if you are into that...

Personally, I feel vaccinations are super important, BUT we are on the delay schedule that is found in that book. I would DEFINITELY recommend separating the MMR vaccine as it is pretty controversial. I work in SpEd and can tell you I have met some kids whose parents are convinced that their children were Vaccine injured, it may or may not be true, but it is enough for me to at least separate and delay their schedule. By the way, for some reason they are saying that boys are more likely than girls to have a reaction...

 

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Another thing to consider is if you seperate it, you get all the nasty ingrediants 3 times vs once with the full MMR. Have you thought about delaying it until the age of 2 or 3, or even later? It's also a live virus.... My kids are not vaccinated, so I can't tell you from experience how my kids reacted as they will never receive this shot (or any other for that matter)


Actually the multi vaccine is just all three combined into one shot same ingredients no difference... Check out "The Vaccine Book" by Dr. Sears it is AWESOME! Very easy to read and understand and not pushing you to vaccinate or not to vaccinate, I read the whole thing in a day!

 

QUOTE(Stephanie1074 @ May 18 2008, 03:16 PM) [snapback]779649[/snapback]
Actually the multi vaccine is just all three combined into one shot same ingredients no difference... Check out "The Vaccine Book" by Dr. Sears it is AWESOME! Very easy to read and understand and not pushing you to vaccinate or not to vaccinate, I read the whole thing in a day!


I've already read it, as well as many others. My point was if you seperate M, M, R into 3 seperate vaccines, you get the nasty ingrediants in each vaccine 3 times whereas if you dont seperate, you get the full MMR shot with the nasty ingredients in one shot.

 

Denise, I am one of those moms who is scared to death about the vaccine. ardon: I do want my kids vaccinated but am scared of the risk of autism. I'm not sure if anyone in my family has it, so I tried to do something in the middle. I am delaying the vaxes. My two didn't get them last year at their one year visit, but will be getting the shot at their 2 year well visit. I would have wanted to seperate them but my doctor doesn't do that.

 

Highly controversial topic...

I suppose it's truly up to me as a parent to make the wisest & safest decision possible for my twins.

Once again thank you for your valuable advice.

I believe in the power of one's words, so I confess that my twins shall not suffer any adverse reactions to any vaccine's that they may get.

 

I am a physician who specializes in Developmental & Behavioral Pediatrics. A large portion of my patients are children with autism. I have read much of the data available regarding causes of autism, etc. There is absolutely no reliable scientific evidence that vaccines cause or contribute to autism. I could go on & on, but I'll leave it at that.......

 

Here is a link to a pharmacy that offers separated Measles, Mumps, and Rubella vaccines. We did it with our sons and it has been a great, hassle-free experience.

Hopewell Pharmacy - NJ

We live in Arizona, but ordered from New Jersey, with overnight shipping. Our doc faxed a prescription to the pharmacy, then we called to have the first vax sent to our doc. As we are ready for future shots, we will order the remaining shots in the series.


I know this thread is old, but I just want to make sure this info is available to anyone who wants it, since this is part of a sticky.

 

I had a long conversation with our pedi before our babies received their first set of shots. He has done a lot of research on the whole topic of vaccines. He found a lot of research that showed the rate of autism has gone up since the mercury has been taken out of the vaccines but their is no evidence which links autism to these vaccines. He said there is actually more harm done by not receiving the vaccines, the illnesses are much more dangerous. The media is sensationalizing the whole subject without true evidence that the vaccines are the cause of autism. There are not enough studies for my pedi to conclude that it is worth skipping or changing the vaccine schedule. We intend stay on the schedule for vaccines which has been studied. My older children have had them with no problems. Good luck with your decision.

Jen

 

I'm a Peds RN and a mom of twins about to turn 1yr old. My position is this . . . you are the parent and you are in charge of what your child receives. Most of the docs and nurses I work with become annoyed with parents who don't want to vaccinate or who want a modified schedule but I take they part of patient (or parent) advocate and say it's completely up to YOU!

My personal opinion (today) is that research is moving more toward genetic and environmental factors as a cause of autism. I feel like soon there will be a link between our poisoned food supply and the increase in autism. Nothing good can come of all the hormones, antibiotics, pesticides and genetically modified additives we eat everyday. It makes sense in my head that autism presents just about the time when toxic levels of these products would be accumulating in our childen's bodies.

That being said, I believe if you are afraid of vaccines for YOUR child, then YOU get to make the decision of when/if they receive them. I will tell you though, when unvaccinated children show up in our office with unexplained fever greater than 72 hours they get a FULL workup. We have to draw blood and do cath urines and test for everything under the sun - because if they are not vaccinated they could literally have ANYTHING. That is a scary situation for parents.

Whatever you decide - I wish you and your children the best. Just remember we make the best decision we can with the information we have. And, when we know better, we do better. That's the best we can do.

 

Denise I'm going through the same dilemma. I just wanted to say that the fact that south africa has a low incident rate of autism might be accurate or might also be representative of diagnosing procedures or documentation of diagnosis. I wouldn't put a lot of stock in that in itself as a protective factor.
My thinking is if you can do them separate there's no reason not to so why not? In Greece where we live separate vaccinations are not available and I'm trying to see if I can import them from another country.

 

Hi,
We're going through the same thing here deciding what to do about the 1 year shots coming up. It's just so very scary our babies seem perfect now but, what if they get the shots and something happens? I would blame myself forever!! We don't know what to do?????