i cant take it anymore

he is miserable and screams/cries almost constantly. im done. hes in his bed right now crying. hes tired and i cant handle it. other than standing 24/7 and bouncing he IS MISERABLE. what am i supposed to do? hes too young for CIO, and i dont know whats wrong with him. we go to the doc once a week and she said its probably gas pains. i give him mylicon and it doesnt help. nothing helps. ideas anyone?

 

:hug:'s momma.

My dd was like that, and I remember feeling alot like you. I didn't know what to do for her. Do you swaddle him? That was a lifesaver with my dd. Before that she wouldn't sleep more then ten minutes and she'd wake up even more upset. How about a car ride? Does he like the swing? That you can have rock him automatically. I wish I had some more suggestions. How is his eating? Does he cry while eating too? Arch his back? Maybe silent reflux??

:hug: Whatever it may be that is bothering him, when it gets too much for you, step outside for a few minutes. :hug:

 

:hug: I agree with the pp, if it gets to be too much step outside and cool off. He is safe in his crib if you need a few minutes to regain your composure.

 

yea hes on meds for reflux. his whole body gets really stiff when he starts flipping out. i think tomorrow when he wakes up i'll put him down after 3 hours and see if he naps. his naps are horrible. 30min tops. ugh hes screaming again gg

 

QUOTE(cottoncandysky @ Sep 12 2008, 02:57 PM) [snapback]977242[/snapback]
yea hes on meds for reflux. his whole body gets really stiff when he starts flipping out. i think tomorrow when he wakes up i'll put him down after 3 hours and see if he naps. his naps are horrible. 30min tops. ugh hes screaming again gg


Okay, so the reflux is out then. Have his meds been updated anytime recently?

Another thing, you say after three hours you put him down... have you tried to put him down earlier then 3 hours?

:hug: :hug:

 

:hug: unfortunately i don't have any suggestions, just wanted to let you know you're not alone.

 

i never really put him down, i kinda just let him fall asleep in my arms when he starts to look tired i'll rock him. how long after he wakes SHOULD i put him down? i just put him in the swaddleme and gave him tylenol. i put him in the fisherprice soother, its at an incline, so that should help the reflux. he doesnt scream as hard when hes upright. his meds are at .8, hes on zantac. i asked the doc on thursday and she said hes at the max dose for his weight? he's 11lbs 7oz right now. ugh im near sobs, i think i should just go let it out and maybe i'll feel better. hes quiet right now, probably because he exhausted himself screaming. someone tell me again why i quit smoking? lol ah i know i know, its bad for me, but having one right now doesnt sound like a bad idea!!!! or maybe a white russian? haha i havent drank in almost a year, i'd get pretty buzzed off of one...hmmm lol. too bad i dont have family living near by!!!

 

QUOTE(cottoncandysky @ Sep 12 2008, 07:08 PM) [snapback]977281[/snapback]
i put him in the fisherprice soother, its at an incline, so that should help the reflux. he doesnt scream as hard when hes upright. his meds are at .8, hes on zantac. i asked the doc on thursday and she said hes at the max dose for his weight? he's 11lbs 7oz right now. ugh im near sobs, i think i should just go let it out and maybe i'll feel better. hes quiet right now, probably because he exhausted himself screaming.

:hug: I am so sorry. IMO the Zantac doesnt seem to be working for him. It did not work for us for the nasty reflux. There are many of us on this board where Zantac did not help the reflux at all. I would request a medication change from your Ped. How about trying Prevacid? Once we got on Prevacid within about 24 hours I noticed a big difference and by one week they were both different babies. Good luck. I hope you find something that works for you and for him. :hug:

 

I think a baby at that age should be awake no longer than 2 hours at a time...are you putting him to sleep before that time or is he staying awake longer?

I am so sorry to hear it's been such a rough time.

 

:hug: Sooo Sorry you are going through this!
My SIL had her daughter do the same thing day after day (colic) for hours on end and they ended up having to drive her around in the car(luckly that was a few years ago before gas prices were so high..LOL) Then they would just put her in the crib and let her cry there was nothing they could do.

I agree with the other posts about seeing if you can get his meds changed. Good Luck & I hope things get better!

Take Care!

 

I second the changing your reflux meds. The crying and arching his body are pretty big signs in our house that the reflux meds weren't working.

We had major sleep issues at your age as well. We read Healthy Sleep Habits Happy Child and it made a world of difference. We don't follow it to a T but do what works best for us. The biggest things that have helped are :

Putting them down 1 hour after waking in the morning
Never letting them stay awake for more than 2 hours.
They normally go down about 1 1/2 hours after waking during the day.
Putting them down for naps really does help after they adjust to it. It will normally take about a week to adjust.
Swaddling saved us until they kicked out of it and they lived in the swings until we did the HSHHC routine.

Hope that helps! Good Luck!!!! And it really is okay to just put him in the crib and walk away. I would go get in the shower with the door closed just to have a few moments of peace. :grouphug:

 

He sounds just like my nephew. He finally came around after zantac and prevacid, and being put on Nutramagin. The nutramagin was a lifesaver. My sis carried him around all day in a sling or when he got a litlle bigger her babyhawk carrier. Other than that, the swing. I wish I was there, we could switch houses for the day. :hug:

Be forceful with the docs, Joselyn. You can do it! Yeah it sounds like the reflux. But does it sound like they have it under control? No. They need to try something else. Ugh... I hate it when medical people don't listen to moms....

 

Big hugs - we had major issues with one of our girls. We switched formula to the hypoallergenic kind - Nutramigen. It was so expensive but actually helped both of our girls tons! I don't know if that's an option for you or not.

Actually once the girls started solids at 4 months - that also helped too.

(((HUGS)))

 

:hug: Sending you hugs! You do not have fmily nearby but do you have a friend that could come sit for a while? My Auntie in law showed up at ny house around the same age as your and I was dealing with colic. She came in and I just broke down I didnt even get hi out. I would put Sarah in her carseat then sit her on the dryer while washing and drying something heavy (lots of movement) the upright of the carseat,the movement and the noise helped her SOOO much!! Sorry you feel so bad!

 

Honey, his reflux meds aren't working. Zantac is the first try medicine, but a lot of babies have to move on to stronger stuff. Give your pedi a call and tell him you want to try Prilosec or Prevacid. My DD spent a month on Zantac, two months on Prevacid, and has been on Prilosec ever since. It's the only one that worked for her.

Also, are you breast feeding? Have you tried eliminating dairy from your diet? That was the key for my DD who had reflux. All the medicine in the world did nothing until I cut out dairy. Everything changed after that. If you're formula feeding, talk to your pedi about trying Nutramigen or Alimentum. These are formulas specifically designed for kids who are having milk protein intolerance issues, and reflux is frequently made worse by milk protein intolerance.

At the age that your kids are, I never let mine be up more than 2 hours in the mornings, and no more than 2.5 hours in the afternoons. They did so much better once I got them on a routine with naps coming 2 to 2.5 hours after wake up. If I recall correctly, our general pattern was wake up around 6:30am, nap one from 8:30 - 9:30, nap two from 12 - 1, nap three from 3:30 - 4:30, bedtime at 7.

 

I don't have any experience with reflux but at that age I always put my girls down for a nap after they'd been up for 90 min to 2 hours. Never kept them up more than 2 hours. If I waited until they seemed sleepy it was too late, they would fuss and cry forever before falling asleep. I also swaddled religiously. If he is more comfortable sitting up, will he sleep in a swing/bouncer/car seat??? I don't know, just trying to throw ideas out there. I can only imagine how frustrating it must be. :hug:

Jen

 

So very sorry! Maybe you should get a second opinion from another ped to see if they have any advise. Big hug!

 

thank you everyone. we have an appt monday at 10:40, i'll update then. im definatly pushing for a new med. though. he is on Nutramigen now, has been for 3 days now. spitting up has gotten alot better, but the screaming has gotten worse. i hope i can survive another 2 days, and that monday the doc gives me an Rx for prevacid or something similar. she didnt want to change his meds because we just changed the formula. first she ordered an u/s, then it came back fine so she ordered an upper GI and gave me samples of Nutramigen to try until monday. since he's been doing okay on that i guess she'll write an Rx for WIC on monday. im going to push for the new meds, and i'll probably end up crying. thats all ive done all day today, cry. hes so happy and pleasent, and then he eats and BAM!!! its a nightmare. thank you all

 

sounds a lot like my ds. His body gets stiff too. It's better now that he is on prevacid. I also rub his tummy clockwise when it's upset. Also try bringing his knees up to his chest if it's gas. That's supposed to help relieve the bubble. Mine likes to be swaddled too. I try to burp him first when he gets really cranky. Sometimes it works sometimes not. I make sure I keep him upright, whether I hold him or he's in his boppy, for about 30 minutes after a feeding for the reflux. I hope things get better for you. Oh yeah, pacifiers are supposed to help a little with the reflux too. It helps the baby produce more saliva. It helps my ds too. I hope this helped. GL

 

:hug:

I was totally in your shoes about 5 months ago! My Ben cried all the time. Not a half-hour went by without a screaming inconsolable meltdown. I felt like I was constantly fighting a nervous breakdown or, at the least, a sobbing hysterical fit. I think that the only thing that held me together was that I was trying to remain in control in front of my now 4-yr-old DD.

The things that saved our sanity were:
- getting Ben on the right reflux meds - Zantac didn't work; even a half-dose of Prevacid didn't work. But, when he started on the full dose of Prevacid, he was a totally different baby within about 48 hours
- getting on a routine, especially for bedtime. Turns out that Ben just likes to go to bed early, in his crib.
- swaddling - we just stopped using miracle blankets about a month ago. When we started swaddling, our nights went from waking with Ben every hour (or less) to getting 3 to 6 hour stretches of him sleeping
- white noise machine - Ben is a very light sleeper
- time - Ben still continues to improve. Every month is better than the one before. He continues to have less inconsolable crying fits, and better sleep at night.

Good luck! :hug:

 

So sorry you have to go through this. My son was the same - it was a complete nightmare. I wanted to hop into the car and run for the hills most days. The stress and anxiety were fierce. We switched from Zantac to Prevacid at around four months and he did much better but also it just took time for his "demons" to leave! Vast improvements between 4 months and now he is almost six months and doing great. I know it is so hard to hang in there week after week and wait for this to pass but it will. We did have to up his dosage a couple of times when he would start his screaming fits again. Best of luck with the Dr and hang in there.

 

QUOTE(cottoncandysky @ Sep 12 2008, 11:57 AM) [snapback]977242[/snapback]
yea hes on meds for reflux. his whole body gets really stiff when he starts flipping out. i think tomorrow when he wakes up i'll put him down after 3 hours and see if he naps. his naps are horrible. 30min tops. ugh hes screaming again gg


I haven't read all the replies, but have you tried having him sleep in a bouncy or his carseat? I know it's a "no-no" but it worked for us with Jake.

Miriam

 

Sending lots and lots of hugs!!!!!

Dianna

 

Oh, I can relate. Ellie has been super fussy since I stopped nursing at 6 weeks. She's on Nutramigen too, but I really didn't notice a difference on that. She was also on Zantac and no difference. We then put her on Prilosec and I've noticed a huge difference. Either she's outgrowing it or it's the meds. Also, neither one of mine can stay awake more than 1.5-2 hours. Sometimes less. If they seem fussy or are yawning/rubbing eyes, I put them to sleep. During the day, I rock them or put them in the swing. Whatever works that day. Every week is different. They don't nap in their cribs yet, so I use the bouncy or swing for naps. At night, we use the Miracle Blankets and they sleep so well in their cribs. I'm dreading the day we stop using them. Good luck at the dr. Hopefully, new meds will help.

 

I just wanted to send some hugs your way :hug:

 

Hope you can get him some new meds. Prevacid worked great for us. We also took Molly to the chiropractor.... and it was a miracle!

I never let Molly and Owen stay up longer than 90 minutes at that age. He could be exhausted. Good luck!

 

Just wanted to send you a hug.

 

My girls both have reflux, the thickened formula works for Izzy but Kayla stll throws up but it doesn't burn her which I am so thankful for, I have watched my friends go through it. Everyone here has told you what could help so I cant add anymore to it. I just hope he gets some relief soon. Don't feel bad about having a good cry, it helps,

 

thank you for all the encouragement and advice. i will definatly push for the prevacid on monday. he does get swaddled at naps and bed, he hates the bouncy, swing, and carseat unfortunatly. ive been crying all day/night. im crying when hes crying cuz i feel helpless, im crying when hes happy because i feel bad for letting him cry alone in his crib, and not being able to fix it. and halle gets plopped in front of the tv too much because she likes it and it keeps her happy when im trying to deal with him. ugh will it ever end?

 

It will get better - I promise!! Mine started to get better around 4.5mnths! I use to swaddle my dd, but her in the carseat (which she didn't like either) and play either the white noise machine really loud or the vacuum right next to her head- this worked for her on some days. Also, for quite awhile she didn't like the swing, and then all of the sudden one day she did like it. She also liked sucking on my finger.
At that age, honestly mine could NOT stay up longer then about 60min, so I was putting them down for naps every 60min, they would sleep for like 45min, then be awake again for 60min then back down again for a nap. And, yes sometimes when I put them down for naps they would cry a bit. Literally my day was up and down with the babies for naps all day long - they would take like 6naps/day!! But at least it kept them slightly happier!
Big hugs!

 

I just wanted to send some hugs your way. So many pps have great advice, but I wanted you to know you are not alone.
Hope things are getting better for all of you!

 

I feel your pain girl--ds screamed and cried 24 hours a day with the cholic and NOTHING worked--I tried mylicon drops, cholic tablets and catnip tea(old home remedy) and nothing worked!!! He was swithced to ALimentum but this didnt help much either--At 3 month whenI thought I would :80: the ped suggested putting 1tsp of rice cereal to every oz. of formula in EVERY ottle--I tried it--Praise GOD it worked--he i like a new baby--So jolly and happy all the time--He NEVER cries--I hope things get better for you soon.

April :hug:

 

Both my babies were like that until we got switched to Nutramagen. No reflux meds here. Just the switch then it all got better. Maybe his tummy can not handle the formula.